House of Commons Hansard #119 of the 35th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was agency.

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Privilege
Oral Question Period

3:05 p.m.

The Speaker

I think it is now clear. Accusations were made. He said he was mistaken.

We are trying to clarify a situation. Let me put everything into perspective as I understand it. During the course of question period, the hon. Minister of Industry raised a point about whether another hon. member attended some meetings that had to do with NATO.

The hon. member, who was mentioned, stood in her place and said that she was at all the meetings. That was her position. I then asked the hon. minister if he would clarify what he said and, in my view, he said that if the hon. member claimed that she was there, and she did, she said in front of all of us that she was there and she did everything, I can only accept the member's word.

Having accepted her word, the hon. minister said that he abjectly apologizes and withdraws. In the absence of any other information, unless there is more information, I have an accusation and a withdrawal. I do not want to get into an open debate.

This is a question of privilege and the hon. member has asked and the statement has been withdrawn. In my view, the statement has been withdrawn.

I address myself to the hon. Minister of Industry. Did the hon. Minister of Industry withdraw his statement?

Privilege
Oral Question Period

3:05 p.m.

Liberal

John Manley Ottawa South, ON

Mr. Speaker, I was not there. If the hon. member is saying in this House that she attended the working sessions and that she voted in the plenary session, then I cannot deny that. I cannot say otherwise. Therefore I abjectly apologize if that is what she is saying. I accept it.

Privilege
Oral Question Period

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker

In my view an abject apology is a withdrawal and I accept it on behalf of the House. I consider this matter to be closed.

I am going to move on to a point of order, the hon. whip of the Reform Party.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

December 12th, 1996 / 3:10 p.m.

Reform

Chuck Strahl Fraser Valley East, BC

Mr. Speaker, as you know, there is an all-party agreement on the way question period is run; the order of the questions, the rotation and how it goes from one party to the next.

During question period after the fourth question from the official opposition you then go to a Liberal member and then normally to a Reform member. Mr. Speaker, this time you failed to recognize the fourth member of the Reform Party and I wondered why. We had a member standing who was not recognized.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker

I consider that to be a reasonable question. There has been an agreement for three years that we have gone to. When I come to the ninth question, which is the fewest questions I believe we have had in this session, I usually go to an independent member. That is the reason why today in my judgment I went to the independent member for Kamloops. That is a reasonable question.

Do I have a point of order over here? Is this the same point of order?

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

Colleen Beaumier Brampton, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that I cannot speak on it but I was named by the member opposite.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

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The Speaker

Order. Is the hon. member talking about the point of order by the hon.-

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

Colleen Beaumier Brampton, ON

Mr. Speaker, I tried to be recognized.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker

As far as the question of privilege is concerned I have ruled on that and we are beyond that now.

I am talking about a point of order here. Let me clear up this point of order and I will return to the hon. member's question of privilege. I am going to the hon. member for Sherbrooke on a point of order.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

3:10 p.m.

Progressive Conservative

Jean Charest Sherbrooke, QC

Mr. Speaker, it is on the same point of order. I was interested in the remarks made by the whip of the Reform Party about question period and how it operates. This is fundamental to the very workings of the House of Commons.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

3:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

Points Of Order
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The Speaker

The hon. member for Sherbrooke has the floor. I would like to listen to him.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

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Progressive Conservative

Jean Charest Sherbrooke, QC

Mr. Speaker, as I was about to say, my understanding of question period is that this is very much the preserve of the Speaker. You will know that taking instructions from the party as far as I am concerned and as far as my knowledge of the rules and the traditions of this place is concerned is a direct contradiction.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

Points Of Order
Oral Question Period

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Progressive Conservative

Jean Charest Sherbrooke, QC

As I was saying, this is a direct contradiction of the role of the Speaker which consists of first and foremost of protecting the rights of the individual member of Parliament. That being said, I noticed during question period something unusual in that the member for York South-Weston, if I understood correctly, was given a position in question period by agreement with members of the Reform Party who substituted one of their members with the member for York South-Weston. With the complicity of members of the Reform Party, who are now controlling the order of questioners that you, Mr. Speaker-