Mr. Speaker, I listened very carefully to what the Reform member just said.
I believe his comments reflect what ever member in the House has been saying, that subsidies are out of the question. Everyone agrees on that.
He mentioned tax breaks. This is what people want also. Usually the Reform Party refers to tax breaks as incentives. However a refundable—I stress refundable—tax credit, which is one of the measures Canadian shipyard owners are asking for, is important because it is an incentive that kicks in after the work has been completed. Therefore, it makes it possible to build something that otherwise would not have been built. It brings in tax revenues as well as creating jobs.
I would like to know whether the Reform member agrees with this kind of measure.