Madam Speaker, I get really offended when people such as the hon. member who just spoke talk about people who are handicapped being the beneficiaries of this program or other things. They use it like people in wars who use women and children as human shields.
That program that is run by HRDC is rightly being criticized. It is right that we call for an independent investigation. For members opposite to say it benefits women, it benefits children, it benefits the poor, it benefits the handicapped, so we cannot possibly ask the government even a question about it is completely offensive. I would like the hon. member, the minister, the parliamentary secretary, the chair of the committee and all Liberals to understand that when they run a program that spends billions of Canadian taxpayers' dollars it is subject to scrutiny. If they deny it, the Canadian public will have the last word on it.