Mr. Speaker, I was going to take notes but that was a fairly lengthy thing to which I do not know how to respond.
I would like to add to the hon. member's words about what happened in terms of Stalin and Hitler. I also remember the registration and confiscation of guns along with all the rest of it.
There are a couple of things the member said that really frightened me. The first one was that we need more lawyers in this place. That is a little frightening to me. I know what he is talking about. He is not talking about sitting in the seats there but about sitting in the lawyers pew. I do not think that would work.
I am sure the hon. member has gone through creating a private member's bill. I have gone through several of them now and I find it really frustrating when the bill keeps coming back and we have to do more work or when it does not meet the charter test. I do not have the expertise on just exactly how to word a bill in order to make it pass the test. We say to those who are supposed to be able to do that “This is what I mean. This is what we want to happen with this bill”, but very few bills make it. In fact, how many pieces of legislation have been rejected at the level we now have available to us because we feared it would not meet the charter test?
I would like to visit the courts with the hon. member some time on a bill that we can agree on—and I am sure we might find one—and say “This is the intent of the bill. What is wrong with it? What can we do to prevent it from ever being challenged?” We cannot do that. It cannot happen.
It was a lower court that made the decision in the pornography case but it is now before the Supreme Court of Canada. We keep saying “Let the process work”. How many times do we have to continue to do this to protect those people who are a menace to our society?
I think Canadians are really tired of that procedure and we need to look at better ways of delivering justice. We need to stop the barriers in the charter that have allowed this to happen. I do think it is a good one to debate but we could not debate it in this place without being called an extremist, a racist or all the other garbage that keeps flowing over. The Liberals do not know how to debate. They only know how to call names. When will that ever end? I doubt if it ever will. As long as we have fools in here it will never happen.