Mr. Chairman, my colleague the member for Vancouver Island North has covered a number of the things I wanted to talk about today, whether it should be a short term fix or litigation. I will not need to go any further there.
I have been listening very carefully to my colleagues from the Liberal side of the House. They are talking very tough today. I hope that tough talk continues when we end up at the WTO. If it does not, we will be right back where we are today.
Today I have heard them say that there has been a leadership role taken by government. I disagree with that. There has not been a leadership role. We have been very weak in our negotiating skills. We have used an apologetic attitude every time we have approached anything. The penalty for that has been that we have suffered as Canadians.
In particular, my riding is going to be losing a number of jobs because of the expiry of the softwood lumber agreement. It is going to impact us dramatically. I want to see a solution to that and I want to see it soon.
The member for Vancouver Island North mentioned earlier that there had been a number of jobs lost. Does he have a specific number from the last set of negotiations from 1995 until now?