Mr. Speaker, the member's response to do it on a credit card is absolutely true, because that is how the government is doing it. Will he not admit that the additional debt to Canada, as a result of the Minister of Finance's managing of the finances of the nation, is up $169 billion?
In terms of so-called balancing the books, that is really only on an annual basis.
Let us be brutally honest. How are they going to get to that balance? They deferred military spending by about $4 billion over time, putting in jeopardy some of the shipbuilding and military expenditures and causing a problem in terms of jobs. Is it not correct, as well, that they are scapegoating, with a lot of their surplus position being on the backs of the unemployed, with the $5 billion surplus in the EI fund?