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  • His favourite word was trade.

Last in Parliament November 2005, as Independent MP for Edmonton—Beaumont (Alberta)

Won his last election, in 2004, with 43% of the vote.

Statements in the House

President Of South Africa September 23rd, 1998

Mr. Speaker, President Mandela's struggle for human rights and the dignity of national reconciliation in his country remains a source of inspiration for Canadians.

In welcoming Mr. Mandela to our country and bestowing on him the Order of Canada, Canadians will have an opportunity to recognize the exceptional importance of his work and his devotion to human rights and to the well-being of South Africans and of citizens the world over.

Tomorrow, President Mandela will address Parliament.

We will all have the opportunity to hear one of the democratic giants of 20th century.

Mexico June 12th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I thank the hon. member for Palliser for bringing this latest matter to my attention yesterday outside the Chamber.

The member knows very well that the government is extremely concerned about what is going on in Chiapas. We met with him and with the members of the delegation last week as he will recall. I can only assure him in the minister's absence that we continue to monitor the situation very, very carefully. I thank him for bringing this matter to the attention of the House.

Nigeria June 10th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, Nigeria and its hundred million residents can be among the leaders of the renaissance across the continent of Africa.

The death of General Abacha, as I am sure my colleagues agree, provides an opportunity to open a new day for Nigeria and the Nigerian people. General Abubakar could start by releasing Chief Abiola who is now coming up to his fifth year in prison. This would be a wonderful step for Nigeria and for the entire world.

Canadian Wheat Board Act June 8th, 1998

moved the second reading of, and concurrence in, amendments made by the Senate to Bill C-4, an act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act and to make consequential amendments to other acts.

Mr. Speaker, everyone knows that Brandon was the wheat city of Canada and Mr. Speaker as a prairie resident knows that this bill is dealing with a subject matter that has theological undertones for a great many of the 5 million of us who live in the three prairie provinces.

I am very pleased on behalf of the minister responsible for the wheat board to speak on the amendments to Bill C-4, an act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act, put forward by the other place.

Before making some comments regarding the amendments may I acknowledge the diligence with which the committee has approached its work on this legislation. As we all know, the Senate committee held hearings in Brandon, Regina, Saskatoon, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg and Ottawa over the course of several weeks. At those hearings there were 92 individual farmers, 34 farm organizations and three provincial ministers of agriculture who made presentations to the Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board, officials from Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada and officials from the wheat board itself.

The result of those consultations is a set of amendments which the Government of Canada intends to support and I will comment briefly on the three amendments.

The first clarifies the conditions for the appointment of the president and it says that the Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board must consult the Canadian Wheat Board's board of directors on the qualifications required for the president and the person whom the minister is proposing to recommend. It also directs that the board of directors must have set the remuneration for the president before the minister recommends an appointee. I think all members will understand why that is a good principle.

The Government of Canada has always intended that the formation of the governing structure of the new Canadian Wheat Board be a true partnership between western Canadian producers and the government. One of the ways this partnership would work is through the corporate governance structure of the board.

Under Bill C-4 western farmers would elect 10 of the 15 members of the new governing board of directors with the government appointing 4 as well as the president and chief executive officer, who would also serve as a board member.

It is felt that this role for the government is justified since the government continues to guarantee initial payments and borrowings, guarantees worth many billions of dollars, and Canadian taxpayers deserve as much accountability as is feasible.

To ensure that both prairie farmers and Canadian taxpayers are well served and protected, the committee has proposed strengthening and clarifying the requirement that the minister must consult the directors before recommending an appointee for president. No recommendation will be made before the board of directors has determined and informed the minister of the president's remuneration.

By clarifying the requirement to consult fully with the directors prior to the appointment of the president the amendment if passed will help ensure that the relationship between the president and other members of the board of directors is harmonious and productive from the outset.

It was always the intent of the government that the board of directors be consulted on the appointment of a president.

This amendment clarifies and enshrines that intent. The government is very pleased with the additional clarification.

The second area of Bill C-4 where the Senate has proposed amendments concerns the means by which the number of grains under the marketing mandate of the wheat board can be either expanded or reduced.

As originally drafted, western Canadian producers had a process for excluding any kind, type, class or grade of wheat or barley from the marketing authority of the board. Similarly, the bill also laid out an inclusion process for adding crops to the mandate of the wheat board.

The amendment filled a gap in the existing wheat board act. As it now stands under the Canadian Wheat Board, the process for changing the Canadian Wheat Board's mandate is unclear, as every member from prairie Canada I am sure knows.

There have been concerns expressed by producers and producer groups about the mechanism for inclusion and exclusion originally laid out in Bill C-4. Plenty of concerns have been expressed.

I am sure my colleagues from the opposition party are going to get up very shortly and tell me why the matter has not been set right yet.

The amendment responds to those concerns. The amendment would replace existing clauses related to the inclusion-exclusion of grains with the provision that would require the current and future ministers responsible for the board to consult the board of directors with its two-thirds majority of farmer chosen members and conduct a vote among producers before any grains are added or removed from the mandate of the board.

The outcome of that vote would have to be in favour of the proposal to add or exclude a grain before the minister could take any action. The government is committed to the democratic principle that producers should be in control of any future changes to the board's mandate.

What remains fundamental is that farmers, not government, would be in control of any future change to the board's marketing authority.

The third area in which the committee has made amendments concerns the financial accountability of the wheat board and the producers it serves.

The Senate has recommended that the Auditor General of Canada be permitted to conduct a one time audit of the accounts and financial transactions of the Canadian Wheat Board and report the findings to the board of directors and to the minister responsible.

As members of the board of directors, the 10 directors elected by farmers will have full access to the report. The board of directors will also control what information would be publicly available and what should remain confidential because of commercial considerations.

The government recognizes that producers are entitled to know how their marketing agency is working on their behalf. The wheat board works for them, not the other way around, and therefore how it conducts its business is very relevant to them.

Honourable members must bear in mind, however, that the wheat board is a major competitor in the international grain trade. With $6 billion a year in sales, it is Canada's fifth largest export earner.

It markets on behalf of Canadian grain producers wheat and barley to more than 70 countries around the world. Grain trading on this scale is a highly competitive business where information is king and confidentiality is of paramount importance.

Who is selling what to whom and for how much is highly regarded commercial intelligence that in the hands of its competitors could do grievous damage to the workings of the wheat board.

Obviously a balance is needed between transparency and accountability to producers in ensuring that the board's operations and records are not subject to significantly greater levels of public access and scrutiny than the private sector grain companies it competes against.

It is in the interest of striking this balance that the Canadian Wheat Board already is fully audited every year by respected private accounting firms. The audit report is public information available to anyone.

In addition to this public information under Bill C-4, 10 of the 15 members of the board of directors would be elected by producers and those directors would have access to all board operational information. This would include the prices at which grain was sold, the price premiums realized, all operating costs and whether the corporation is running efficiently.

As well, the government with this bill is very deliberately moving the Canadian Wheat Board further from its purview. Once this bill is passed, the board would cease to be an agent of Her Majesty and a crown corporation. Producers will finally control the future of the board.

All these factors mitigate the need for an ongoing role for the auditor general to audit the books of the board. Nevertheless, if this additional examination by the taxpayers' auditor can enhance the transparency and accountability of the agency and alleviate sincere concerns, the government is willing to support the amendment to authorize a one time audit of the accounts and financial transactions of the board by the auditor general.

The government continues to believe that with the full knowledge of the inner workings of the board the directors would be in the best position to assess what information in the auditor general's report could be made public and what for commercial reasons should remain confidential.

I commend the other place on its work on this legislation. The amendments proposed are good ones and I am very pleased to support the motion to accept them. It is important that these amendments are passed by this House quickly to allow for the election of the 10 farmer elected directors to take place this fall to give control of the future of the board to producers.

The bill is a result of extensive consultation, the contents of which have been discussed, dissected, debated and deliberated on, some would say ad nauseam. It can be very truly said that this piece of legislation is probably one of the most thoroughly discussed in recent memory.

I strongly urge colleagues to support these very reasonable amendments so that western Canadian farmers can move forward with their new modern and accountable Canadian Wheat Board.

Supply May 26th, 1998

Madam Speaker, the hon. member and I were both crown attorneys. I listened with much interest to what he said.

Drug abuse seems to be the matrix of much of the crime that occurs. A statistic from Philadelphia showed that something like 200 heroin addicts committed about a half million crimes in that city during a 10 year period. Could he comment on that?

Indonesia May 15th, 1998

It's true. Arrangements are being made as we speak to evacuate all Canadians from that country. We are trying to avert any danger in this situation. There is full agreement still on the points raised by the hon. member. I think I can assure my colleague that Canada is doing everything to evacuate everyone who has to be evacuated.

Indonesia May 15th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague from Laval East, with whom I just spent 12 days touring Latin America.

Chiapas May 14th, 1998

The Minister of Foreign Affairs wishes to meet with these people as quickly as possible and I believe that the chair of our Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade also wishes to meet with those who took part in this mission.

Chiapas May 14th, 1998

Señor presidente, I thank the hon. member for Parkdale—High Park for her question.

I very much doubt that the government will have to impose economic sanctions.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all our colleagues who took part in this very important mission. I wonder why the official opposition did not participate.

The Late Father Bob Ogle April 27th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the government, I am extremely pleased to say a few words today about our former colleague, the hon. member for Saskatoon East.

Father Bob Ogle, as members know, after a 15 year battle with cancer died on April 1 of this year in Saskatoon. He was born on Christmas Eve, 1928. He was one of five children of Irish Catholic parents. He lived his early years in Rosetown, Saskatchewan.

In 1946, after graduating from high school, he enter St. Peter's Seminary in London. He was ordained a priest in Rosetown in 1953. The next few years were spent furthering his education and serving in parishes in Saskatoon and region. During that time he also founded the Catholic Centre in Saskatoon and the St. Pius X Seminary.

In 1964 he went to northeast Brazil as a voluntary missionary where he was engaged in pastoral activities, organizing literacy, farming co-operatives and medical programs.

In 1969 he co-ordinated a large scale relief operation and house building program following the disastrous floods in the Valley of Mundau in Brazil.

He came back to Saskatoon in 1970 as pastor of a large parish where he served for five years.

Following that he travelled to many countries in Africa and Asia to study development projects, concluding with the book When the Snake Bites the Sun .

He was elected as the member of parliament for Saskatoon East in 1979, was re-elected in 1980 and served until 1984.

I do not know that he could have survived the 211 seat tidal wave of the Tories in 1984, but knowing Father Bob he might just well have survived that campaign.

He is also the author of two other books, North South Calling in 1987 and A Man of Letters in 1990. In 1993 he produced a series of nationally televised retreats called “Ogle & Company” and continued to write letters and many articles for various newspapers, even as his health deteriorated.

He was named an Officer of the Order of Canada in 1989 and received Saskatchewan's Order or Merit in 1995.

Throughout the illness he showed remarkable courage and maintained interest and care for those close to him and for our global neighbours. A constant advocate and help to him through his political work and declining health was his sister, Mary Lou.

He is mourned by the Ogle family: Mary Lou, his sister; Marguerite Stevens of Qualicum Beach, B.C. and her daughters, Jennifer French, Francine Kebe, Marianne Kebe and Kathryn Kebe; his brother, Charles of Saskatoon and their children Shannon Barclay of Coleville, Sheila Anderson of Calgary and Kelly of Calgary.

Our departed colleague is mourned by Bishop James Weisgerber and the priests and people of the Diocese of Saskatoon.

Always close to his heart was the mission in Brazil and anyone watching this might wish to make a donation to the Brazil Mission Fund in care of the Diocese of Saskatoon, 100-5th Avenue North, Saskatoon.

Prayers for Father Ogle were said on April 5 at Holy Spirit Church and also at the chapel of St. Anne's Home. Funeral mass was April 6 at Holy Spirit Church.

Mr. Speaker, you and I will both recall vividly about 24 months ago when Father Bob wanted to meet with you about a dinner he wanted you to host to promote a better understanding of Canadians, of our media and the so-called developing world. Such was his eloquence that you hosted that dinner, which was a great success despite your early reluctance, if I may say so, to do so because of cost reasons. No one could say no for long to our departed colleague and his many, many good causes.

One of his characteristics, which all colleagues who were here with him cherished, was his constant cheeriness in the face of adversity. No matter how much pain he was in he always had time for a friendly word and laugh with every one of us or anybody who might work in these halls. Only mutual respect and friendliness came from Father Bob.

A subject he and I never discussed was Mother Teresa, but I am certain she was a role model for him in his work in Brazil and elsewhere. She and Robert both did much that was, to use her phrase, beautiful for God.

All of us in this place and across the country and planet owe much to him. He will not be forgotten.