Supply  We would preserve exactly what we have now. It is not a traditional deductible system. On the other hand, it is quite clear that I am prepared to continue to support a system which has no co-insurance and no deductibles if ways can be found to finance it.

Peacekeeping Act  He said there must be an achievable mandate. The principal antagonists must agree to UN involvement. Are the lines of authority clear? Is the mission adequately funded? What is the risk for peacekeepers and the rules of engagement? Laws are simply a codification of what is necessary and reasonable. The things the minister mentioned are both reasonable and necessary considerations.

Supply  I am wondering if the hon. member has discussed this with his colleagues, including his leader, who during the 1993 campaign cited: "I want to make it absolutely clear that the Reform Party is not promoting private health care, deductibles or user fees". I think the hon. member has to check his facts and perhaps check with his leader. Could he please respond to that?

Supply  In terms of accessibility, the essential core agreements must be available to all regardless of income. I believe I made that relatively clear in my speech.

Telecommunications  I can assure the hon. member our view is that the government acted entirely legally and is not subject to any civil suit for the actions it has taken in issuing a direction in pursuance of its powers under the Broadcasting Act. However, I want to make clear that our objective in this, as I have stated several times in the House on previous days, is to create a competitive environment for direct to home satellite services, a level playing field.

Investment Canada  The Minister of Canadian Heritage attended meetings in Los Angeles with MCA and Seagram prior to this transaction being filed officially with the securities commission or cleared by Investment Canada. Does the Prime Minister not understand that as a result of these meetings the Minister of Canadian Heritage appears to be influencing Investment Canada's decision?

Seagram  My colleagues in the cabinet, without my presence, using the laws of Canada, have made a ruling which is clear. Everybody who wants to can apply for a licence and it will be reviewed under Canadian law. I will not intervene. However, I will not go down to the level of people who do not have the decency to realize that a Prime Minister of Canada has the right to have his daughter well married.

The Economy  Inflation is re-emerging which will prevent the Bank of Canada from offering the interest rate relief we all need as Canadians. The message is clear. Unless the government charts a new fiscal course for deficit elimination, not deficit reduction, our economy will end up on the rocks.

Schizophrenia Society Of Canada  Speaker, it is with pleasure that I inform hon. members of the launching of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada's public awareness campaign. The purpose of the campaign is quite clear: to change the public perception of schizophrenia, and to replace misconceptions with more factual information. The theme is quite catchy: if you think it is hard to pronounce, imagine what is it like to live with.

Supply  Later, she alluded to her guilt, saying that as a politician-and I agree with her, that is essentially what she is in this case-she has to respect the wishes of Canadians, and Canadians are sending the government a clear message that they want the principles in the Canada Health Act to be upheld. They are strangling the provinces, but are doing it under the pretence of self-professed good intentions.

Supply  We believe our role to play as the central government is to bring about and co-ordinate what it is we see within the principle that those medically required services are based on clear clinical guidelines. This is why the health forum was set up. The health forum is dealing right now with how we define, how we look at outcomes. It is dealing with how we look at what is the care and the criteria necessary to provide those outcomes so that we are not guessing as the hon. member for Macleod would have us do and set all sorts of criteria for who should get it and what a core service is.

Supply  Madam Speaker, the Prime Minister has been a member of Parliament for 32 years. He does not need lessons on medicare from the Reform Party. Let us make that perfectly clear. He was here when medicare was brought forward. He saw the growth and the best of medicare. That is why he is such a staunch defender of it. That is what we are talking about. The member for Macleod talks about core or medically necessary services and having lists.

Supply  It has shown that indeed we have a lot of savings by having a publicly administered single tier system. The second point is when the member spoke about health care funding I am not clear as to his understanding of funding for health. Does it mean only public spending on health or private spending on health? I can see from his speech that he would like to shift the cost of health care spending from the government to private individuals, the citizens.

Supply  Speaking of broken promises, during the election and following I can recall the leader of the Reform Party stating: "I want to make it absolutely clear that the Reform Party is not promoting private health care, deductibles or user fees". Yet, today what is he talking about? Deductibles, user fees, getting more and more private. That was yesterday; this is today.

Supply  The non-essential services can be provided through other financing sources such as insurance and even user pay. That is perfectly clear. These proposals have been presented by other health care reformers in the health care field itself and in the provinces. It is time for the minister to acknowledge them for what they are, not to pretend they are something else.