Public Safety committee  Those are two different topics. First, the list is prepared and reviewed on an ongoing basis by Transport Canada, CSIS and the RCMP, not by outside personnel. The information comes to us mainly from CSIS and the RCMP. The other topic we discussed was the Office of Reconsideratio

Public Safety committee  If I may, I'll start with the second one. I'm not sure I quite understand it, but let me try this. There is somebody at the airport for whom we will not issue an emergency direction, and we tell the airline this person is clear to go and the airline still doesn't board that per

Public Safety committee  No, no. We will make up our mind. If we tell the air carrier this person is not the same person as the name on the list appears to be, this is a green light. But if the air carrier still refuses to bring that person on board, there's nothing we can do. It is not because of this p

Public Safety committee  By default, that's what it is. But a green light--

Public Safety committee  We will have people on my staff seven days a week, 24 hours a day, answering calls from the airline and verifying that the person is or is not the person who's on the list. If we tell the air carrier we have verified the information they gave us, and this is not the person on the

Public Safety committee  We will make a decision.

Public Safety committee  But we will. Why would we not make a decision? We will make a decision in each and every case. But that's not a guarantee.

Public Safety committee  We will make a decision. If we are not sure, we may make a decision for you not to board.

Public Safety committee  If we're not sure, yes.

Public Safety committee  If we're not sure and we think there is a security threat for the flight, we will issue a security directive, an emergency directive.

Public Safety committee  Yes, but that's a purely theoretical question.

Public Safety committee  Again, that's purely theoretical. But this list will be made by people. We will have a committee of Transport Canada, CSIS, and RCMP. They will be analyzing the facts surrounding people, and they will be recommending that people be placed on the list. Since this is made by peopl

Public Safety committee  What circumstances?

Public Safety committee  We will have a continuous review of all the names on the list by the three parties I just mentioned, so a trigger would be from one of the agencies. Another trigger would be from the passenger--

Public Safety committee  I just said a permanent review of the list every 30 days. Each and every name will have to be looked at again, and if information is provided to take the name off, it will be taken off. Another trigger would be the reconsideration mechanism that I mentioned. If somebody appeals