Public Safety committee  No. It wasn't then, and it's not now.

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  I'm not aware of anyone who was forced out.

Public Safety committee  You're absolutely right. I know of some members who left much too early because they felt that they needed to move on to something else, given the situation inside the RCMP. I'm aware of some who were close to retirement but could have stuck around for an extra year or two, and o

Public Safety committee  You mean the retirements, or the situation that existed?

Public Safety committee  It affects morale to the extent that over 33 years, I, and I assume others, have found it fun to come to work. If I had to do it all over again, policing is what I would want to do. It's a great job. It's a challenging job, and there's no reason for not being able to enjoy coming

Public Safety committee  It was becoming toxic, morale was starting to dwindle, and the interaction was not respectful.

Public Safety committee  Yes, vaguely. I don't know all the details. At the time I was not involved in that specific area of policing. However, yes, I vaguely recall what you're saying.

Public Safety committee  July 25...?

Public Safety committee  I'm not sure how you define “public”, but the first time that the complaint went outside the organization was in early July, and the first person was to Patricia Hassard of PCO.

Public Safety committee  No. And in fact every attempt was made through the first three years, despite issues, to support Bill Elliott. I know Senior Deputy Commissioner Sweeney had been working very closely with him. I know Deputy Commissioner Peter Martin, who has passed away, also dealt with him on th

Public Safety committee  You may need to clarify your question for me. I'm not sure exactly which opinion you're referring to.

Public Safety committee  I can answer this question. I don't know exactly what Tim Killam said during his testimony here, but I do know that Tim Killam and I have had many conversations, and there was no light between us. Our opinions were identical.

Public Safety committee  We have ministerial directives that are received--

Public Safety committee  To the RCMP: ministerial directives on a number of issues, national security matters, and so on. In fact, Mike can maybe speak about that; he was in charge of national security at one point. Ministerial directives do come in from time to time, but in terms of operational directio