I think there are a lot of operational-level challenges too, with a lack of systems to respond to people. At the same time, the third country phenomenon has been very difficult for us Afghans. Right now, my colleague has travel authorization to travel to Canada, but they do not have Pakistani visa and they cannot obtain Pakistani visa. There are also political and security risks to many Afghans travelling to Pakistan. We have had members of the Afghan security and other forces who are detained in Pakistan.
It's about the operationalization of this whole challenge. The third country is the major challenge, the system of response. At the same time, it's also about the lack of any Afghans going to other countries. It's not just Pakistan. Look at the number of embassies open in Kabul. They cannot get visas, they cannot go.... Now the Taliban has stopped women from travelling as well.
We don't have any hope of getting to the third countries.