At the beginning, we had zero travel documents, so out of those 5,000 family members, we have gotten nothing. That's what we are trying to get: a single travel document from the government so that we can go to.... When it comes to stopping...most of us or all of us have our families hidden, right? Sometimes I don't know where they are until I hear from them.
Literally, we do not dare to go to any office or even to come forward. We even try to avoid our relatives. We just do not want to be seen. We go to a completely different province or a completely different city. We have zero travel documents or anything that can facilitate our travel.