Mr. Chair, we do need to get to a resolution on this. I'm just going to go back. The simplest thing is Mr. Bachand's motion. It is all encompassing. The fact is we are going to have to go back and look at who we want to come, and we may not have that at our fingertips. But sections 37 and 39 were brought in by the previous government, so we clearly need to hear from the justice minister at the time or some officials, or the public safety minister at the time, who was Anne McLellan. I'm always happy to see Anne again.
We're making this much more complicated than it needs to be. Clearly those three people are going to come to the committee at some point anyway. So let's follow the customary process, have a simple motion, which we support. Sections 37 and 38 are the basis of what most of this discussion is really coming back to.
There are aspects of this whole process that cause one to ponder about the motivation behind it. That's all I'll say in that regard. But let's not make things complicated--sorry?