It is very difficult for me to answer that question. It is very possible that General Hillier decided not to tell the minister. That is part of the culture. I worked for a year with colleagues from the Department of National Defence. A lot of them are very open and regular people. But there are others who do not trust civilians. In my opinion, the policy on detainees was kept secret even from the minister. As a policy, that, to me, was indefensible.
On November 18th, 2009. See this statement in context.