I guess my concern is that if we could see it working, when our farmers can actually see across the border that it's working, clearly it wouldn't be countervailable in contravention of any international trade treaty, and you can see how they feel hard done by in terms of our response. Is that the type of thing you will be bringing to the agricultural ministers, the fact that these things do exist and they seem to work in other jurisdictions?
I've been very frustrated by this, even trying to get answers and responses, especially from the minister. He has put a wall up, actually.