Both national carriers deal with all those things on a day-to-day basis. I don't accept the fact that you're operating at about 25% to 30% less efficiency--in terms of stacking the cars, getting them in place--than the other provider right now. A couple of years ago it was the other way around.
I'm not sure why we have this happening, but there's a lot of frustration out there. As Wayne said, it's the primary producers who end up paying the penalty. They can't get their grain delivered. They pay the extra costs for that. It's frustrating for all of us who have to deal with the system year after year when things do not seem to be changing that much.
I just wanted to change the subject for a second.
Mr. Heney, you mentioned that the board uses only lakers when they're shipping their grain, and grain companies used ocean freighters.