Well, there's an operating philosophy. First of all, the lakers service a couple of elevators in the river that are serviceable only by Canadian lake fleet, and that's Baie-Comeau and Port-Cartier. Those two facilities don't have rail access, so the lakers are an integral part of moving grain in the system.
The issue becomes the size of the lake fleet. It's been declining over the years as the grain has been declining through the port. There are now about 20 bulkers--they call them straight-deck vessels--that aren't self unloaders, and those are carrying 78% of the grain in Canada on the seaway. So you're down to these 20 ships. We don't mind those being used to capacity; the problem is that we don't want our capacity limited to those. We feel that we could do a lot more grain if there were a better availability of the ocean vessel coming directly into the port.