We are talking about significant amounts of money, of course, and the way in which these quotas are actually managed creates quite a different image. The situation was that traditionally, in Quebec, people were still producing 60 % of their basic quotas, roughly, particularly toward the end. In Ontario, people had been at 40 % for quite some time. However, the money we are seeking still refers to the basic quotas, and that is where there is a serious difference between the two figures.
You also asked us to explain the most significant difference between the quotas in Ontario and those in Quebec. We come back once again to the Tobacco Adjustment Assistance Program, the TAAP, which was designed to rationalize the supply, although it was over for Quebec, it was final. There was no program to deal with the situation in Quebec, which is no longer in the market at all. In Ontario, the program was for those who were still in the market, to help them survive for quite a while. The idea is that the industry would be rationalized, that those with quotas would be able to continue to survive, and those who wanted to would be helped to get out of tobacco, so as to remove their supply from the market. In Quebec, there was simply no supply. So it was an assistance program, but certainly not the assistance people were expecting.
Furthermore, as we can see today, because the representatives from Ontario, I think — and I did not listen to the preceding presentations, but there is good communication between our two groups — also have quite a comprehensive program to encourage people to get out of tobacco, but about two or three years after we went through this situation.
So they are experiencing a shortfall as well. I think the Ontario office talks about a figure of $3.30 for people who want to get out of tobacco. So that is the proof that the figure of $1.05 that we got is really not enough. That's why we want some adjustments made. Moreover, we use their figures to defend our position, without forgetting the conversion factor, because the situation in Quebec is very different, particularly as regards quotas.