Okay.
Ernie, it's good to see you again. You made some comments regarding the CAIS program and the pending disaster fund.
Coming from the Cariboo central interior, I'm hearing what you're saying. I've yet to run into a cattle producer up there, for example, who's really figured out how to use that CAIS program in any way to their benefit. They've said, and I repeat some of your words, “It is very convoluted; it's an accounting nightmare.” For most of them, it's simply unacceptable.
When the Liberals brought it in, in 2003, they weren't able to fix it. We're on our way, I think--and I'm not on the agriculture committee as a regular member, so I'm counting on my colleagues--in replacing it with something that will work. Hopefully we'll change the name to get that bitter taste out of the cattle producers' mouths when they say it.
Also, I had it described the other day as “something the Liberals brought in to try to drive the family farms out of the business so that the big corporations could take over”. That is maybe a strong statement, but nevertheless.... Now, that came from a cattle producer, not from one of my colleagues, I have to assure you.
Anyway, could you just give a brief response to that overall thought?