Yes. I think what they're saying is that the first 30% is a producer problem. You should be able to live within those 30% losses. Now, these other income support mechanisms that we have within business risk management will compensate for those. I think it's when you trigger below that that you need to have intervention and prop up that thing, or else those other ones fall apart, because you don't have the margins to support it. That's what has given our industry problems.
On April 18th, 2007. See this statement in context.