Yes, maybe. There is one thing about the CAIS program—the BRM program that we have—and that is that even though it may not hit the target, it's got good intentions. There's no doubt about that. Sometimes we say there's not enough money there, but by and large, there not being enough money there is not really the big complaint. It's how the money gets spread around. We seem to take care of people who are doing very well, thank you. If they have a slight drop in margin, we make sure they're well taken care of. But the people who really need the money just seem to slip through the cracks. We talked about declining margins. What about people who have no margins at all? If you look at the province that I come from—and I've heard it from Quebec as well—there are many, and predominantly the number of producers out there without any kind of a margin to be able to either go up or down is really the fundamental problem.
Even in cases where it may work--and we can talk about the fur industry, which I'm involved in; I have the largest fox farm in North America. The CAIS program can work relatively well for one or two years, but then if the prices are going down, you're on that slippery slope of declining margins. What I'm hearing mostly—and sometimes it's articulated very clearly and other times it's a little bit vague—is that it's really the cost of production that we're getting at. That's what I see: it's the cost of production. Then I see the language of COP starting to come about. When we look at supply management, by the way, I believe it's at least one of the key principles. There are three main pillars, but it's this idea of working with COP and building safeguards around that COP that gives stability to the farming industry, especially in the dairy industry. I think if we would concentrate a little more on that—Again, with COP and the language that I'm hearing, I don't know if we're going to get anywhere because they're talking about tying the payments of COP into eligible net sales. If you have high eligible net sales, then maybe you don't need your COP protected as much as somebody who doesn't have those ENS. I know it's not simple to get at, but I don't believe it's overly complicated. I think we have to get the fundamentals straight. We just haven't been able to do that.