As to the lack of understanding, we saw that with BSE when the initial programs were designed and the Canadian Cattlemen's Association was invited to sit around the table. They told the program designers the program would not work the way it was being designed and that the money was going to go straight to the packing plant. Governments went ahead. They insisted they were right and put the programs in place anyway, and you can't blame the packing plants for taking the money or stealing it or anything else when the government gave it to them, because they didn't follow the advice of industry. So there are a lot of people up there who do not understand the basic functioning of agriculture.
There are a lot of professional people up there who are very well-intentioned, but my biggest frustration is when they ask for advice or if they don't understand how an industry like the beef industry works. If they go to the trouble of asking a group like the Canadian Cattlemen's Association to give them advice on a program, why would they not follow that advice?