One thing about the CAIS program is that the advance is based on a fixed amount, and then the program itself is based on a margin amount, and the margin formula takes away from the fixed amount. That's what happened to the cow-calf people. We got a fixed amount of $100 a head for our cows that had calved. But when the margin formula was used in the program, we lost that, and our money from the government then became a loan. The only way we could access the money was to join the CAIS program.
I've never belonged to any government program in my life, and I don't belong to the CAIS program today, even though they told me in the premier's office that I should join it. But I said that once I am stabbed in the back by a program, I will never join it again. I quit it really quickly.