Over seven years. That's the national program. It's not a lot that we're asking for. Currently, Ontario growers are at an incredible disadvantage because everybody else has one but us. Anyway, that's the answer to your question.
The other one had to do with what drove production down. It's like a lot of things. It's sort of the death by a thousand cuts. In 1999 there was the largest crop of apples since the thirties in Ontario and in eastern North America. I grow fresh apples for grocery stores and consumption, processing apples for pies and sauce and those types of things, and juice. So although we're not diversified in a variety of crops, we're diversified in the types of apples that we grow.
Normally, it's rare that all three of those are in the dumper, but in 1999 the dumper didn't even describe where they were. It was a disaster. Then in 2002 there was no crop, and basically it comes down to cost of production going up like this and returns, if anything, being level or decreasing somewhat.
I grow a few Crispins or Mutsus, a nice green apple that tastes a lot better than a Granny Smith, which we call tree turnips, because you can roll them on the floor and they won't bruise. For those Crispins, in the 2002 crop year, I received $358 a bin. This past year, when Crispins were fewer on the marketplace, I received $208 a bin.
So it's a variety of things, yes, and it's the whole notion that it's an incredibly expensive venture to be involved in. Labour is 50% to 60% of our costs, and the cost of labour is going up, up, up.