I think clearly that's the experience. Jeff touches on it a lot, and then one of the concerns I have is there's a lot of new technology, whether it's biodigesters, whether it's a liquid fluid bed. With all due respect, community groups look at this--and I don't mean to be disrespectful--but they're somewhat naive in understanding some of these concepts. More importantly, they don't understand the bankers' position in all of this.
So our role within the Ethanol Development Council is to be quite articulate with community groups, and say, focus on template models; focus on models that we can replicate over and over again. I think we're having some success with that.