In response to the second question, you may not have the history here, but we had a plebiscite previously and there was a huge issue over the question and a huge issue over the voters list. So all those issues would actually come into play in the event that anything like that took place. But as I said in the past, our opinion has been that individual farmers should be free to make their own marketing choices in western Canada.
Again, to that point, I think the survey shows there's strong support for that open market: 65% of barley growers want an open or dual market; 54% overall want that change. That's the board's survey. It looks to me like there are some pretty strong results there: 69% think the board should have competition; 60% think a dual market would work. So their own survey has shown there's strong support for our position.