For the sake of reference, I know of a case where the finance committee was travelling—this was a few years back—but the entire government at that time wasn't even at the meeting, they didn't have quorum, and despite that fact they still took evidence, even though it was against the standing orders. They did receive evidence, and I believe it ended up that one of the NDP members had to chair that meeting in Winnipeg.
Mr. St. Amand.