I agree. Certainly I think the oil industry is different. The studies I'm looking at are out of Iowa, where they have more ethanol plants than anywhere else. For rural development industries, in certain towns like Albert Lea, Minnesota, and so on, where there is an ethanol plant, there's been an increase in employment. But for the surrounding ones, it hasn't increased to the same extent as some of the proponents have been mentioning. There is an increase, but it's modest. For example, in Iowa the pig industry is starting to be reduced. We have not studied that in Canada, but we have studied it in Iowa. All I'm saying is that it's a modest improvement, if that.
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