On your point, yes, I would say, Mr. Chair, that we would like to have heard from Mr. White prior to his taking the job.
I'm not going to blame anybody for the fact that we didn't see the order in council; these things happen, so as far as I'm concerned, it's water under the bridge. I think the deadline for hearing him is in fact today, so we can't hear him under the regular order in council appointments, but we do want him as a witness at some point in time. I think you know what the question will be from us--whether he's taking his direction from the board or from the minister. We feel his direction should come from the minister.
These things happen. We're not going to argue about it. We thank the parliamentary secretary.