Okay, so copies of this document definitely were made, indirectly or directly.
One thing you also said earlier was that it's your goal to defend your members. That's part of your job and that's what you're doing here today. Would it be fair to say that no matter what any of your members do, it's your job or obligation to defend them? And that would be whether they stole in the workplace, had poor work habits, or leaked confidential documents. Would that be a fair assessment, that your job is to defend them, basically, no matter what they do? Yes or no?