Evidence of meeting #44 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was confidential.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michèle Demers  President, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada
Chris Roberts  Research Officer, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

—and that a breach is a serious matter—

9:30 a.m.

President, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

—and there are consequences to that breach. Is that true?

9:30 a.m.

President, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada

Michèle Demers

I don't know.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

There are internal processes. If a member of your employee public service has an issue, there are places he or she can go to deal with matters that concern them, is there not?

9:30 a.m.

President, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada

Michèle Demers

I told this committee earlier that the purpose of sending this document to the union was not to blow the whistle; it was to ask for advice.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

The protocol doesn't provide for that, does it?

9:30 a.m.

Research Officer, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada

Chris Roberts

May I respond?

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

I'm asking Ms. Demers to respond.

9:30 a.m.

President, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada

Michèle Demers

I did respond already. I told you that I took the document. It had implications. Who protects the public?

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Komarnicki Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

It is not your responsibility to take care of public security matters. It's a matter for others, and it should be left to those people.

9:30 a.m.

President, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada

Michèle Demers

I speak on a regular basis on matters of public security.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

On a point of order, Mr. Easter.

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

I have an e-mail from parliamentary services relating to this committee.

9:30 a.m.

An hon. member

[Inaudible--Editor]

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

No, we're not talking about classified documents; we're talking about confidential documents, but this has nothing to do with that, Dean. Sorry for the interruption.

Mr. Chair, it says:

Thank you for your e-mail regarding the Agriculture Standing Committee that is currently in session. Unfortunately due to technical problems we will not be able to broadcast this meeting today. We apologize for the problems in not being able to provide the live feed.

Mr. Chair, that is fairly serious. I don't think it's your fault, and it probably isn't the fault of the technical people either. It's a glitch in the system. But it should be noted that this committee is not being broadcast live while we have the union here.

We need to clarify if there will be a written transcript of the meeting.

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

We'll still have the minutes and the blues to be circulated.

9:30 a.m.

An hon. member

Is there an audio record?

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

The meeting is being recorded. There will be an audio record that we'll be able to put into the system to access at a later date.

The transcripts are coming off the recording from this meeting. We'll look at getting this audio tape posted as well, so that people can access it when it's available.

Mr. Miller, on the same point of order?

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Miller Conservative Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, ON

It's not on the same one.

I regret that we weren't able to televise this either, but we can't control the technical problems.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

We're not even being broadcast on the Internet.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

We're not being televised, Larry. It's just the audio that's going.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Miller Conservative Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, ON

Fair enough.

The point of order, Mr. Chair, was that just before the end of Mr. Komarnicki's questions, two or three of the questions Ms. Demers answered were with an “uh-huh”. I just want it for the record, as it may not have been picked up for the tape, that this meant yes.

Could I have that confirmed? I believe she did it twice or three times. I just want to confirm that was a yes.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

That's not a point of order.

I'll ask for a clarification, that “uh-huh”means yes.

August 19th, 2008 / 9:35 a.m.

President, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada

Michèle Demers

I apologize. In the future I'll say yes.