While she's thinking, can I add one more thing, Mr. Chair? It has to do specifically with the hog industry.
If the European Union were to give the rest of the world simply as much market access with no tariffs as what supply management gives to the rest of the world in Canada, our hog industry would be hugely more profitable than it currently is. So the fact that we're continuing to fight those barriers as well as the compendium on SPS issues is thick as well. So that all contributes to the problem that we have.