Mr. Chair, I've been here eight years and I know what protocol is all about, but I think what happened yesterday is very sad in the way it happened. It's food safety, and listeriosis is part of it. But the government has taken a position, and our critic has taken a position; I think we should move on to the witnesses now, or tell the witnesses to go home, because this is not fair. This is a bad reflection on our committee. My suggestion to you, Chair, is that we allow the witnesses to make their presentations and move on with this meeting.