I can give you a real-life example. Last year, I dealt with Anheuser-Busch out of the U.S. on malt barley. It was the first year we were able to do so through the new CashPlus program. There were a lot of headaches, a lot of “you have to go through the Wheat Board”. This year, they would like to contract with me directly, but they have to go through the Wheat Board. We've been working at it for a month. They tried to phone the Wheat Board. No one's around. This week every malt guy on the Wheat Board has gone to Europe for something. You can't deal with anybody there. They have to pay me, say, $5 a bushel, and then they have to pay the Wheat Board, say, $1 a bushel, so they get charged $6 a bushel. They would like to give me $6 a bushel, but they can't. We can't even get a deal done, because there's so much red tape. That's a real-life example.
That's just with malt barley. Mr. Atamanenko was talking about the price of durum, which was way higher than what it was for our U.S. counterparts. Yes, it's more for some people and less for others, but the problem is that we can't forward-contract. This year they had $13 forward-contracts of durum with act-of-God clauses. This year we're getting $8, but those are forward-contracting. I can make a margin; it's a business. But we can't make margins with the Wheat Board because we cannot forward-contract.