When it comes down to it, we're dealing mostly with tariffs now. As we start to see tariffs go down, countries that truly want to protect their markets find other means to do so. I'll compare Canada with U.S. and Australia in terms of chicken.
The U.S. doesn't have any tariffs to protect its chicken market. But it's biggest competitor is Brazil, and it keeps Brazil out because it claims it's not Newcastle-free. There are some cases of Newcastle, but Brazil is a country about a third the size of Canada, so something can be at the far end of a country and not at the other end, and they claim that status. Therefore even our shipments of Brazilian chicken into Canada can't go into a U.S. port. Ships have to go to Europe and then to Canada to bring Brazilian chicken here. That's what the U.S. does to keep it out.
I talked about Mexico and where they were. Australia has a permanent avian influenza ban. It has never banned Canadian chicken for avian influenza because it has a ban that says you have to cook it until it's essentially pet food before it can get on that island, because it's so pristine, therefore nobody exports chicken to Australia.
So it's those types of things under the guise of other matters. Frankly, the market access secretariat has to play its role by going out and vetting those ones where we're getting blocked by illegitimate freezes.