With regard to Mr. Sands' point on volume, there are two issues with volume. There is volume, and there is quality, and you have to be honest. We'd love to say that the quality in fruits and vegetables produced in Canada is always great, but some of it is not. The farmers have to take some responsibility for that. I'm on the Vineland horticultural board, and I'm very pleased to be part of it. We're trying to investigate ways to ensure that you have a higher-level, consistent crop across the country.
Gary's right: there are huge markets, particularly in that independent sector, that are not being exploited by large sectors of our agriculture community. Frankly, we don't beat you up on price either, which is pretty interesting.
The second thing is fidelity agreements. Sir, you're going to have to start using your bully pulpit. There are going to have to be discussions with the majors who franchise in this country. You will have to sit down and ask those folks to loosen up on their fidelity agreements as they affect fresh fruits and vegetables, or item X or item Y.
You understand why there are fidelity agreements. It is because they need certain volumes through those warehouses. We have a very efficient, very good retail food system in Canada, and I'm not shooting at that, but if you want to sell more fruits and vegetables at the local level, you need to somehow find some way to deal with those fidelity agreements. The only way you can deal with them is for governments to negotiate with them. That's my guess, anyway.