Thank you very much.
Gentlemen, I have to go in a few minutes and I have a couple of things to mention.
As you know, the study we're doing right now is about competitiveness, or the lack thereof in a lot of cases. Industry always has an opportunity--and most of the time it capitalizes on that and then some--to recover their costs. We're here to try to help the grassroots producers and make sure they are viable, that we have a good quantity of good-quality, safe food here in Canada.
I know that up until 2007 the grains industry, which is a large user of fertilizer, had about four or five very bad years in a row where they made no money, and in fact, in some years they lost money. They're very dependent on fertilizer. As I said, I know that finally in 2007 they basically had some record prices, which was good. It was about time. The unfortunate part about that was that fertilizer prices went up probably the same amount as those large increases in commodity prices, maybe even higher. We had some witnesses last year who basically admitted that there was some extra price-taking. Larry Miller calls it price gouging.
I think there's no doubt that went on. What would the figure be, in your estimation, of that price gouging? Was it 10%, 25%?