We're talking primarily about the A-base, the core research dollars, and it's our understanding that it's been frozen for a number of years, going back even maybe to the previous government. Simply inflation alone means a reduction of them. That's why you see a drop from 28 down to 5. Part of that is simply that there's no new money going in there. That's what we're talking about.
Since we're out of time, maybe we could put something to this committee on what we'd like to see for a model.