I'm not getting into that.
I have just one question that I would like you to answer. You don't have to necessarily answer it today. You could get back to us. We talked about it. I'm not sure who brought it up. It may have been Mr. Foster or Ms. Ross. It's about packing plants owning cattle and what have you.
We all know that's not illegal, but what I think you said, Mr. Tait, was about how they can pull the cattle in, whether it's deliberately controlling the price or not. There's something that I've been tossing around. Again, as I said, while it's not illegal for packers to own cattle, I'd like to see some ideas and some suggestions--and I've talked to farm groups in my own riding--for coming up with a litmus test that would qualify you as a farmer. My idea in doing this is to basically make it so that you would have to pass this litmus test, if I could call it that, in order to access government programs.
Do you have any ideas or comments? I spoke to representatives from your organization in my own riding. We can come back to that at one point.
We'll now turn it over to Mr. Easter for five minutes.