Yes.
Dr. Holley's comments, when viewed in their totality, are reflective of the discussions we've had at committee, and they are about the fact that food safety is not determined by any one point of inspection. While a lot has been done and a lot of changes have been adopted, and the food safety system has been turned upside down, Dr. Holley is very adamant about the fact that food safety in Canada is a reflection of intensive agricultural production, animal feed systems, in terms of what gets recirculated in animal feeds in terms of bacterial pathogens, and the scope of what Rick is talking about is part and parcel of what we, at CFIA, are taking on with the panel to re-look at the entire food system.
So that's where Dr. Holley is coming from. His three key points remain that Canada needs a surveillance system for food-borne illness at a level that we currently do not have; his view is that Canada needs to rethink how food is produced in Canada, if it really is serious about food safety, and how we measure food safety in Canada; and that Canada must also address the issues around multi-jurisdictional attributes of food between federal and provincial. That's where Rick is coming from, he's very open about that, and we are fully engaged with Mr. Holley, as we are with the balance of the academic panel.