I want to follow up on Mrs. Hughes' comments.
Essentially, we aren't talking about shutting down the programming that goes on in the institutions like Stony Mountain Institution, where the farm is located. They're still going to be there getting their programming. It's still minimum security where they're at. They're still going to be living for the most part independently, cooking their own meals. They're still going to be able to go out and get training. CORCAN is still going to bring forward some of those activities rather than being involved in farming. They're going to be setting up other businesses where those individuals can go there and work and get hard skills so that they can go out and market themselves when they're released.
They're already starting to do this with a number of the inmates. They're allowing them to go and actually do on-the-job training and work at work sites off the prison with employers who are going to take them on after they leave the prison system. For that reason, I think this is something that is doable. It's making sure that they're getting all the skills and all the training that they need to be successful when they leave prison.
The farm program...although it's a great program. I've talked to inmates who have enjoyed being part of it. They know from the standpoint of animal husbandry skills that they have limited possibilities of being hired in the farming community, especially if you look at the situation in the hog industry or the cattle industry. There aren't that many jobs out there, or they live in communities where those jobs don't exist.
We have to make sure we provide them with the skills and the training so that they can go out there and transition successfully.