Okay. In any event, they moved ahead just as if it doesn't matter, Mr. Chair. I think that's a real problem.
I will quibble a little bit with Frank's motion, although he's a colleague. I actually think we should have put a timeframe to this, but we'll see what happens. I maintain, and not just since this government came to power, that for the Department of Transport, we could rename it the Department of Railways, because they consistently support the railways over the public interest.
I'd also mention that we didn't even get forthright answers from CN officials when they were here. I recall that I asked them about their return on capital, which was 20% prior to the Crow benefit cap coming into place. They left the impression that they didn't know anything about it. As for the lady who was here from Transport Canada, she admitted that it was true that they were assured a 20% return on capital and that it is now in the formula, although it's not necessarily the same 20% because it would change over time. But they're assured of a return on capital.
So the reality of the world is that even on these sidings they're trying to close down, they are assured of a return on capital. Wouldn't we love that as farmers?