We need these programs as a backup, but we also need to get our profitability back. That goes to what Dave was speaking about before. If we restrict imports to at least the standards under which we're producing our own fruit, then at least we won't get the dumping and the below-cost sales. It might eliminate some of that.
Our industry sells apples to England, and England requires that we meet the standards of their own producers. There are certain chemicals that they restrict. If we want to sell into their market we can't use them, even if they're legal in Canada. I don't know what that means for you, but if we at least import things that meet the same standards of what we're producing, that would give us a little more.