I can say that for the last two years at the Ontario Cattlemen's Association, resolutions have come forth to try to ban captive supply and packer ownership of cattle. I don't know what's going through the farmers' minds, but they're not voting in favour of it. They say they want those packers to be able to own those cattle if they choose to, and I don't know how we help guys, if that's their attitude.
There are feedlots out in Alberta, and they can pull cattle out of those lots one week early, with a few pounds' difference, and lower the price of our market and still have their supply there. They can just go back to the market the following week and buy them that much lower. I don't know how we compete in a beef industry that does that with so few players.