On your first question, I think the programs are not working because of the risk management program. I think we're now in a crisis situation. That's why when the producers try to manage in that program they don't see the money coming. That program works if you have a good year, a bad year, a good year, and a bad year. But now we've bad years for a couple of years, so I think that's why those programs aren't addressing the situation well.
If you look at the pork sector as a whole in Canada, it's going down. You see that in the Maritimes. Here in Quebec we have an insurance program from the provincial government that's slowing things down, but in the end it will be the same as in all the other provinces--just the speed is different.
When we build the sector--pork was built on export and everything--we all may agree it would be a good thing to slow things down a little. But we have to make sure it's done in a proper way so we don't destroy everything as a sector. We have people working on farms. We have industries selling feedstuff. We have to make sure everything goes...give it time, then adjust and cut everything in this, because you lose farms and all the businesses around them.
So I think the program has to be made to address risk management when things are going normally. But we need programs to stabilize the sector before it gets better. That's what we're looking for now for the pork sector. We had that for beef, so it's the same thing.
We know the market fluctuates and it's hard for the producer. We know that the health issue is important, and if we can take the impact of health out of the cost of production, it will help the sector manage the fluctuations in price and feedstuff.