Thank you, Chair.
Actually, Curtiss, I'm just going to pick up where you left off.
That's why I hate caps, and that's why I asked you to repeat it. It wasn't necessarily for the benefit of everybody around here. I've talked to my colleagues across the floor, and they understand that. The reality with caps, with AgriStability, for example, is that when you have good years, you want to establish a good margin; you can't take advantage of that margin when it starts to turn down. It doesn't give you the strength, the financial time, to keep going through that bottom. It actually leaves you shorted out.
I have a situation in my riding where a couple... They're big farmers. They're efficient farmers, very good farmers. But under AgriStability, the husband and wife get geared together. They grabbed his dad and put him in there. They grabbed his kids and put them in there.
Well, as a family, they farm 30,000 acres, but as individuals they farm maybe 4,000 or 5,000 each. But that doesn't matter. They're capped. And that's a big problem. That's a problem not just for the federal government. It's a problem that the provinces have to understand when we start negotiating these programs.
That's why I say these caps are bad. We should at least get them back to being reflective of the year 2010, not 1980. So that's the point I was trying to get you to make again, because it is a hurdle that I see in our AgriStability programs.
I have one question, and Stephen, you started to touch on it a little bit. You see a light at the end of the tunnel. You say some things are happening, prices are coming up and stuff like that. What structurally is changing to bring the prices up? Is it the reduced demand? What I'm trying to get at is structurally what has to change in order to get profitability back in this industry? Does the dollar have to go back to 65ยข? Because we know that's probably not going to happen for a long time. What will country-of-origin labelling do if that's finally put to the side and actually corrected? What else has to change? I know market access is a big thing, getting more markets. We're working hard. At pretty well every break, the minister is in one country or another selling beef or pork. What else do you see has to change?