Thanks, Alex. It's an excellent question. And you're right, I think I was probably here at that first meeting as well.
It's been a real challenge. There are a lot of things that went on, including commodity prices. Various commodities just went crazy. And a lot of those are inputs. It just made us extremely uncompetitive.
I'll suggest to you that certainly things are changing. The market hog price in the States has come up dramatically since last summer. I think we would all agree there are much better times ahead.
It's just that we've gone through such a long period of time. Our producers are pretty bruised. I have lost so much equity--