—and we are very thankful in the dairy community to have supply management. It means certain stabilities can take place that are not found in other commodities. We have heard that pork is actually thinking about going to some type of supply management to help with their financial concerns.
As far as going to the bank is concerned, it's a lot easier going to the bank when you have a quota there and they can say, well, we know what type of income is going to come in based on that quota. There's still management involved. A poor manager is not going to do well whether there's supply management or not, but supply management does help you; it does help you with financing.