Well, I mean, every program is administered, and we have programs out there that, really, I don't feel they do a lot for us. When a program comes out with 50¢ dollars...50¢ dollars are only good to somebody who has the other 50¢.
Agriculture is in trouble. A lot of us do not have that 50¢, so we don't access the program. We need to get something in there and get it to the primary producers. If you have this 50¢ dollar, if you want to invest heavily in the business and it does question your profitability, then we need programs there to help that.
But if you have an investment... I like the concept of two programs: one, loan guarantees to allow access to it, and then let the farmers... We're very innovative people. We come up with things. As a matter of fact, we're too innovative. We're able to copy other farmers and we're probably the best industry... For example, if we see somebody making some money, we all jump in and screw the market up and overproduce. Look at blueberries and cranberries. Blueberries are just horrid now.
We need to do this. We have to realize that our marketing chain is costing us a lot of money now. When we look at this and at our food system, it's very important that you protect the primary producer. One thing we hear in our discussions on food is that we want to maintain the food supply. A lot of the arguments that are happening nowadays are aimed at protecting our choice of food. We can produce just about everything we need in this country to sustain our country, but people still want the choice. We have to get away from protecting the choice. We do not need to protect the grapefruit, the bananas, the star fruit, the stuff that's coming in. We do not need to protect that.
Supply management for all sectors would certainly be great. That would allow us, for all sectors, to import this.
We should look at Quebec and see what Quebec is doing, because they have a strong agricultural industry. I don't know exactly what they're doing. I've asked questions. I've never had the full answer. I'd love to see what the Quebec programs are. We should copy them.