What we get into is internal subsidization on multi-commodity farms, which we've got to find a way around.
Just on the—what did you call it, Matthew?—paradigm shift, I guess one of the difficulties is that no matter what we do on the farm, most of the efficiencies somebody else takes advantage of. Years ago, we had hog marketing boards and other marketing boards in place, which did give us market power. Supply management still does. But if we're more efficient, those efficiencies are passed on to somebody else and somebody takes advantage of our more efficient production.
I do like your whole idea of a collaborative approach. I think one of the best examples in the world, actually, is in Germany, where livestock operations have gotten together. They put liquid manure pits in all their operations. The liquid manure is picked up the same as a milk truck picks up milk, and it's trucked to a central depot. From that they produce hydroelectricity, there's water left over for irrigation, and some of the biomass goes back in the land as organic matter. That's what can be done.
Regardless of all the efficiencies that you can put in place through collaboration and other means, whether it's cheaper hydroelectricity through windmills and collaborating that way, how do we establish a balance of market power between primary producers and farmers and everything else they do and the industrial sector?